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It’s estimated that 10 grams of pine pollen contains 0.8 micrograms of testosterone.

Thats 800 nanograms. That’s for the powder not the concentrated tincture.

Lets makes a guess that a dose of pine pollen tincture has 8000 nanograms. That seems reasonable.

Average male free testosterone is 300 to 1,000 nanograms per deciliter (ng/dL) of blood.

That’s one tenth of a liter so really its 3000 to 10,000 nanograms per liter & you have 7.2 liters.

So total testosterone in the blood for a 200 lb male is 21000 – 72000 nanograms.

Sublingual testosterone has a short half life possibly only four hours.

That means you will need to dose repeatedly with pine pollen tincture possibly 4x per day.

Each dose will need to be a fair amount perhaps two teaspoons absorbed under the tongue.

At that rate you may be able to get an additional 10000-20000 nanograms per day into your bloodstream.

So this is only worth it by making your own tincture. Also due to the short half life its unlikely that there will be an accumulation of testosterone over time. Its also unlikely to cause gonadal shutdown.

To be effective you will be using about a shot glass of pine pollen tincture per day.

To go into shutdown on pine pollen tincture maybe 2-3 shot glasses per day could do it over a period of time.

All of this is anecdotal. Pollen will vary in quality and testosterone levels. The extraction process will vary as will the sediment levels and strength of the tincture batches.

Certainly its worth it to buy pollen in bulk and make up large batches of tincture in multiple jars.

Its not worth it to buy small bottles of tincture and take a few small drops per day.

There is more to it though as Pine Pollen contains DHEA and a number of other androgenic substances that will enhance testosterone production by the body. Its highly likely that a shot glass per day of tincture will stimulate testosterone production in addition to the free testosterone directly introduced.

OK we are all familiar with Pine Pollen tincture. This is where the pollen is soaked in alcohol for a minimum 2 weeks and the solution is administered sublingually. Most of the solution is alcohol & the testosterone is diluted.

This is similar to how cannabis oil is made. The cannabis leaf or head is soaked in isopropylene and the resulting solution is similar to a herbal tincture – except that you dont want to be using isopropylene for a tincture. What they do next is boil the isopropylene in a pot on the stove for 1-2 hours until they have a sticky residue. That is cannabis resin & it is 80% THC. This is normally then smoked.

What I want to propose is that the Pine Pollen tincture is similarly boiled on a stove top to remove the alcohol:

A study conducted by the US Department of Agriculture’s Nutrient Data Laboratory calculated the percentage of alcohol remaining in a dish based on various cooking methods. The results are as follows:

Preparation Method and Percent of Alcohol Retained

alcohol added to boiling liquid & removed from heat: 85%
alcohol flamed: 75%
no heat, stored overnight: 70%
baked, 25 minutes, alcohol not stirred into mixture: 45%

baked/simmered, alcohol stirred into mixture:
15 minutes – 40%
30 minutes – 35%
1 hour – 25%
1.5 hours – 20%
2 hours – 10%
2.5 hours – 5%

If I boil off the alcohol in pine pollen tincture its about 80 Celsius – the same as a hot sauna – much lower than waters boiling point.

OK so you can see from above this will leave you with a greatly concentrated androgenic residue – Keep in mind that I do not know how resilient the androgens are to heat extraction & I will update this post when I find out. Basically at this point if the androgens and other nutrients are intact then you have a very potent steroid.

But I dont expect you to smoke it. The reason I thought of this is that the only effective way to absorb it is in a suppository & to do that it must be melted into cocoa butter – something that cant be done with a tincture.

You can add nettle or another herb to protect your prostate also. Suppositories are gross & I never took one until a couple of weeks back. Basically its the same as treating a hemorrhoid. It takes 1-2 seconds to stick the suppository in then you squeeze your butt for 5-10 minutes. That’s it, nothing gay, homo or fag involved. Its just a gross thing to do. Same as wiping your ass after a crap, do you dwell upon it all day? no of course not.

I use a plastic bag for hygiene then toss it out after – very simple.

Now there are a couple of questions.

Dosing? dont ask me I dont know how much androgen will be in your preparation.

Will the testosterone & other stuff survive the heat? I dont know – will try find out.

Finally will you need to cycle this – well if the stuff in it survives the heat almost certainly as it will be 20x stronger than tincture with 50-80% absorption.

So there you go a 100% legal steroid made from pine tree pollen.

UPDATE: Tried it once via suppository & will be sticking to sub-lingual. Suppositories are gross. I’m gunna reserve that for stuff with no alternative.

Testosterone has a low MOL so will easily pass through under the tongue.

Very good news concerning Pine Pollen & Deer Antler

I made a post some time ago extolling the use of these natural extracts. Well it seemed to fall short as while they do indeed contain an awesome profile of anabolic and health enhancing substances, oral absorbtion falls far short of making them useful. Even making tinctures using alcohol seemed to fall short. The alcohol may well extract many of the compounds but they still only pass minimally into the blood stream.

Well fortuitously I tore my rotator cuff. I developed bursitis and in the process of researching joint pain & inflammation cures I came accross good old DMSO.

DMSO is a chemical we have all heard of but many may have forgotten as I did.

DMSO is an organic solvent, largely non-toxic with many pleasant health side effects. Relevant to Pine Pollen and Antler is the fact that it transports chemicals through the skin and into the blood stream. In the case of testosterone the valid research indicates it is close to 100% absorbtion.

So if one uses DMSO instead of alcohol then you have a tincture that is better than medical hormone replacement – problem solved.

Be aware this will definitely lead to testicular shutdown so its up to you to determine a suitable administration protocol.

Also DMSO is a double edged sword. While it is non toxic it will transport any toxin directly into your blood. So if you are sloppy about how you use it death & organ damage are a definite possibility, or cancer down the track.

You must take meticulous care to use only pure compounds that do not contain any contaminants, all storage vessels and application utensils must be preferably glass.

No messing about with this stuff as the physiological effect is exacly the same as injection. FDA has all but banned it and consider why – every cannabis, meth & heroin addict would be poisoning themselves to death if it caught on.

Here is a pic of the supplements I currently use…

In the foreground is a packet of tribulus from purebulk.com – this will last me for years (until it expires).

Above that are two packets of pine pollen bought from China off ebay. Next to those is a packet of nettle root from ebay.

Then the containers at the rear from the left are Vitamin C, Two containers of acetyl-L-carnitine from nutrabio.com that will last until 2015, a container of Beta Glucan from purebulk, Two year supply of Creatine from nutrabio, multi vitamin, grape seed extract & finally two bottles of colostrum which is abundant locally.

Here’s why I take this stuff:

Pine Pollen
Nettle Root
Tribulus

These are basically my Pro Testosterone & Anti Estrogenic stack.

Colostrum

Contains Igf Insulin like growth factor & I like to let these melt under my tongue.

Vitamin C
Multi Vitamin
Grape extract

Contains resveratrol and quercetin for mitochondria production, general health

Beta Glucan

I take this exclusively to boost my immune system, the colostrum also has immunological compounds as does the multi vitamin.

Creatine Monohydrate

Well you all know what that’s for. Interestingly the Pine Pollen is a complete protein. Creatine contains three amino acids.

Acetyl-L-Carnitine

This stuff is great for the liver and can actually cure NASH – non alcoholic liver syndrome or fatty liver. My liver blood profile is usually out a bit so I take this stuff. Combined with the green tea and creatine it is also a great brain tonic. Pine Pollen is also good for the liver.

I also drink lots of green tea and oolong tea everyday. I cant take all of the supplements in the world but that is why I take what I take.

This is a breakthrough for me – especially at 43 with andropause about to kick my ass for good.

I just found out last week that “Pine Pollen” of all things is chocked full of male sex hormones and is the most potent plant steroid (sterol)

People seem to have a couple of points of confusion :

1. YES IT IS ABSORBED – but you must use a sub-lingual tincture – mix it with alcohol, let it cure for a month, then apply under your tongue 3x per day.

2. Does it work ? What the hell do you think? It contains Testosterone, DHEA, Androsterone, Androstenedione a full spectrum of amino acids, vitamins, minerals and a bunch of other stuff.

YES IT WORKS

Ok so basically testosterone and DHEA are illegal here in New Zealand & most GP doctors are soft asses that bend over backwards to avoid physical exercise. I wouldn’t even bother with the medical BS required to get on hormone replacement here. Now I don’t have to worry about the quacks approval.

Pine Pollen is legal and abundant and best of all FREE.

LOL this is what I would like my androgen profile to look like 😉

I must add though that there are a few other herbs you want to take with this stuff. For example as you get older there is a compound SHGB that converts testosterone to oestrogen which increases with age. You will need to take Nettle Root along with your pine pollen to prevent this from happening – otherwise the increased testosterone will turn against you. But the nettle root works so its not going to be a problem.

You can also add Asian and American ginseng, Saw palmetto and tribulus.

Look for the book “Natural Testosterone Solution” for more information.